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Stop motion puppet armature by shalonpalmer Stop motion puppet armature by shalonpalmer
Stop motion puppet armature, 2006
From bottom of foot to top of K&S head tube - 8 in.

Step one, the armature.
Created with 1/16" aluminum armature wire, various sized K&S brass tubing, M3 nuts, grub screws, and some steel plating.
Removable feet, hands and head.

Soon -
Step two, foam
Step three, clothing
Step four, head, hands and feet

I have to say, this was a whole lot of fun, and then a real pain in the ass to make!!! But, definitely a learning experience for what works and doesn't and what makes is stronger and what weakens it...
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XiaoIngle123 Featured By Owner Jun 5, 2009
Wow. I want one! Haha! Its cool!
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shalonpalmer Featured By Owner Jun 20, 2009  Professional Artist
Thanks!! :D Sadly my house is overflowing with this stuff!!!
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Takineko Featured By Owner May 1, 2008   General Artist
...I HAVE to learn this.. o.o
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shalonpalmer Featured By Owner May 1, 2008  Professional Artist
Straight out of this book -

Stop Motion: Craft Skills for Model Animation
by Susannah Shaw
[link]
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DinoLover09 Featured By Owner Feb 20, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Cool, a book for stop-motion animation.
I wish Ray wrote a book about it.
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Takineko Featured By Owner May 2, 2008   General Artist
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40 bucks! Maybe when I sign up for classes, I'll get that...
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shalonpalmer Featured By Owner May 3, 2008  Professional Artist
wow. it definitely wasn't 40 when I bought it... i think it was around 20. maybe you could find it used for cheaper.... or at abebooks.com or such.
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Takineko Featured By Owner May 4, 2008   General Artist
thank you! I should ask for it for christmas or something. ^^
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spunge-mad Featured By Owner Jul 1, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
i have that book too! ( if youve no idea what im talkign about its a massive co
incidence!)

i dont know where to get k&s tube things though :(
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shalonpalmer Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2007  Professional Artist
yeah, I love that book! Well... for k&s tubing... the suppliers in the back of that book are mostly in the uk - but check a local hobby store. That's the only place that I can find it near me. Otherwise, you can always order it on line.....
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spunge-mad Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
yea, ive looked online but the delivery is usually more than the tubing itself!I think il stick with wire an epoxy putty for a while :)

have you made any moulds? i really want to try it but im a bit scared =/

anyway, your sculpt+armature looks great!
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shalonpalmer Featured By Owner Jul 2, 2007  Professional Artist
I've made various other molds - but nothing for stop motion: [link] [link] and [link] are for latex casts and [link] and [link] were for plaster casts and [link] and [link] were for resin casts. All I can say, is try it - make something simple and easy (that you haven't poured your soul into and love!!!) and just try it, that way you don't have that much to lose!! :D
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spunge-mad Featured By Owner Jul 3, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
thanks for the advice :). I think il get some sort of plaster with silicone being a bit too expensive just to play about with.

also found someone on ebay that sells k+s tubing. yey!

what sizes did you use?
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shalonpalmer Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2007  Professional Artist
I can't remember off the top of my head, and I'm currently at my desk at work..... I believe I just followed whatever the book claimed would be good for the different parts, but I can measure what I keep around when I get home. I still use the stuff for removeable parts of sculptures - it's really helpful.
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spunge-mad Featured By Owner Jul 5, 2007  Hobbyist General Artist
by what i can remember in the book it doesnt give any specific measurements. well if you can measure, thanks :D

yea, i bought an armature kit that has removable arms but the hips and chest are big blocks which makes it improssible to make skinny figures.

once i work out im going to buy a big bunch of sculpting materials; all i have at the mo is newplast (plasticine) which is annoying when you put in loadsa effort in a sculpture and it just gets squished:(

i better get good! hehe
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shalonpalmer Featured By Owner Jul 6, 2007  Professional Artist
the book lists the tubing as being 5/32, 3/16, and 7/32. Not sure about the stuff that I used, but I'm sure it was close to this - or change it up for the size puppet you're making.

Good luck... stopmo and stopmo puppets have always been a love of mine, but I don't see myself going down that road... not having done a lot of work as an animator, I'm at a loss as to what really needs to be in a puppet - how exactly it will need to move and flow.

So, good luck and I can't wait to see what you make! :D
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hatredtheblack Featured By Owner Jun 17, 2006
I've never actually used one of these. I haven't made a stop-mo film in the longest time, but have been plannin on renewing my profession. When I do, I think I may use one of these.
It's pretty cool you provide tips for people. I've been sculpting for almost 10 years and am now doing it professionally, but even I benefit from stuff like this.
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shalonpalmer Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2006  Professional Artist
Sadly I have to admit I've never used one of these either!! At this point it's just hanging out - I haven't the time to try animating it at the moment.
I can't give great advice on how the nitty gritty would work out in animation, but any other question on construction and such - feel free to send them over.
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hatredtheblack Featured By Owner Aug 2, 2006
I believe I shall! I'm really climbing the ladder with my sculptures; some other outside advice would really help right now.
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shalonpalmer Featured By Owner Aug 14, 2006  Professional Artist
ask anything you'd like. I'm more than happy to help.
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derffie Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2006
I've done simular frames myself but mild steel, as slothpaladin mentioned aluminum (tryed it and I broke it, but I couldn't replace it :() Good luck, and I realy want to see the finished results!
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shalonpalmer Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2006  Professional Artist
At this point... I funked up the test head/hands/feet - I've taken pics but I'm going to go back and try a different way.

Also - I think I really just want to make puppets - and not animate them... I suppose I should find an animator who needs to let go of the fabricating half and just wants to worry about animating... then I can just make puppets!!!
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derffie Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2006
Ah, to live and learn! do you wanna know the best thing I've found for puppets? sounds sad, but I used a action man, (the pics will be on soon as its finished) well all the joints are there mulitple articulation points, also cheap and easy to get a hold of! no quite traditional but its working well! :fingercrossed: I hope you get it working ok soon!
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shalonpalmer Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2006  Professional Artist
I could imagine that that would be one of the best and easiest solutions - I've seen a couple people do similar things. I also recently got some stikfas to play with...

I just really need to stick with the sculpture thing for a while though - I tried this armature out of the Susannah Shaw stop motion book more on a construction basis than actually to animate.

I'm thinking that I'll keep on with some character maquettes and do puppet stuff (both stop mo and theater) when asked... and start putting out portfolios to random studios - ya never know...

Thanks for the tips!!
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derffie Featured By Owner Jun 13, 2006
Yeah it is hard, I don't make any movies so I don't know animation that well but the puppetsI have made seemed to have worked ok, more trial and error....well mainly error. :| Your sculpts rock, so I agree thats the inportant thing, (big studios have others make the armatures for you!) Good luck!
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shalonpalmer Featured By Owner Jun 24, 2006  Professional Artist
Yeah - I think that for now, definitely going to dig into the sculpture half and screw the stop mo armatures!!! Need to work on details more...
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derffie Featured By Owner Jun 25, 2006
Well You can't go wrong with your sculpts, I just want to see more!
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slothpaladin Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2006   Filmographer
That wire looks like it's twisted really tight, don't know if it will be problimatic or anything but I never twist is that tight. You should be able to save time by not using brass tubing for the bones and just making them out of epoxy, as you are using aluminum armature wire the replacable limbs is likely overkill unless you need to remove the limbs in animation (is that why you used the tubing) if you don't need to remember that amature wire is very hard to brake, and you could have saved time by making the hips and shoulders out of epoxy putty.

I have yet to do any foam latex stuff, but I plan on learning sooner or later.
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shalonpalmer Featured By Owner Jun 7, 2006  Professional Artist
well - I haven't put too much motion stress on it, we'll see on the tightness - as for the tubing for bones, it was easier in a lot of ways, but epoxy may be a better idea - thanks. The removable limbs is for removal during animation, especially to be able to replace the parts in case they get too funked up.

Thanks a lot of looking and commenting.
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mesondecay Featured By Owner Jun 6, 2006
That's pretty awesome...! I will be following with interest to find out how the rest of the steps turn out. :)
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shalonpalmer Featured By Owner Jun 8, 2006  Professional Artist
sadly - over the last few days, it hasn't been going all so well!!! but, I'll post the pictures of failure soon!! :(
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